FLAT CREEK BORDER COLLIES
Kathy Weich
569 Rappa Road
Sprakers NY 12166
Phone: 518-673-5456
E-Mail: minnycruella@msn.com
Flat Creek Border Collies — We have been breeding BC’s for over 20 years. Our breeding program is designed to promote healthy, happy working and companion animals. Our puppies have very diverse “jobs” and yet are ideally suited to each. We have sold puppies to 14 states and 2 foreign countries. Our genetics are a combination of imported and domestic lineage. We have litters usually available in the spring and fall. We have the following colors: Black, Red, Blue, Merle, Tri, Lilac and Lavender.
U are a horrible pig for keeping these animals out in the cold, I hope you die via freezing to death
You are horrible people. These are horrible conditions s. Please tell me how that is adequate shelter for dogs in below freezing weather. In snow storms. What water? The water will freeze. These dogs will be saved, they will have a voice. Anyone who supports this place is just as sociopathic as these so called breeders.
Give up every dog and puppy that you have now! This is animal cruelty! They will freeze to death.
I just called the police and they have informed me that the dogs are safe and it is all taken care of, so much relief. I hope she never is allowed to have any animals again…. POS
Karma is real! I can assure you these animal abusers will pay for thier cruelty one way or another! I have deep sorrow and pain for these poor dogs! Had to cuddle my wife in her greif this am knowing that some probably didnt make it through the night.
May the local authorities stop hiding from this issue or be prosecuted also!
No reason that this shouldo be allowed to continue, tonight is going to be colder then last! I pray they save the poor things today. Or PROVIDE PROOF OF PROPER CARE FOR EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL THERE! Or lock themout there with the animals. See how long they last! Sick sick people!
THERE ARE DOGS LIVING OUTSIDE WITH INADEQUATE PROTECTION ON THIS PERSON’S PROPERTY..THE PHOTOS ARE ON FB AND THIS IS A HORROR..SOME ARE PUPPIES, SOME CHIHUAHUAS WITHOUT ANY MEANS OF STAYING WARM…THIS SO CALLED BREEDER IS A HOARDER AND HORROR. PLEASE SOMEONE CALL THE LOCAL DA’S OFFICE.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=744815618879968&set=a.227271733967695.76237.107769775917892&type=1&theater
CHECK OUT THIS PHOTO OF THE YARD OF THIS DISGUSTING BREEDER…A HOARDER IS MORE LIKE IT. SHAME AND PLEASE CALL THE DA’S OFFICE IMMEDIATELY.
Beware of this whole group of people making money off of animals. Brian Dresser is trolling the FB pages trying to slam Eric. there are reports that Eric is breeding Pittbulls. If you look on Brian’s page, he transported a white Persian kitten from GA for $400. It’s their mindset to make cash off of animals and it has to stop!! DON’T SHOP, ADOPT!!!
THIS IS WHAT THEIR DOGS WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER LAST NIGHT..MURDERERS!!!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=422211271239468&set=a.312307255563204.1073741826.278249465635650&type=1
The State Police and Sheriff’s office have both been there and found no violations. The dogs all have shelter, adequate food and water and are NOT “freezing to death”. You will note that every picture taken of this place is taken from the road and show the BACK of the barrels, not the front (which would show proper bedding). Not one person making accusations has been on the property or talked to the owner.
this is a puppy mill and dogs are all left outside and are now dying from exposure … seniors and pups as well. NEVER buy from this group. Minnie Cruella and Kathy are the owners and torturers.
There are a lot of sad stories everywhere you go. Lets concentrate on these babies and get themin a warm place. Chan. 13 is doing a story tonight at 5 00. Lets hope this abuse stops tonight.Lets work TOGETHER on better laws in NYS.
If she is providing adequate shelter and bedding then she should have nothing to hide. She should let the news crews in so we can see for ourselves.
To the people who bought dogs from her. Are your dogs sleeping outside tonight?
If you educated yourself at all, and at least saw the video of the dogs trying to hold their paws up out of the snow and limping because of the pain, maybe your intelligence might shine through!!!
Leaving dogs out in these conditions with the MINIMUM requirements of the law is NOT what a person that cares about dogs does. Just because the police have said that the law is not being broken does not mean these dogs are not being abused. We all know that there are not adequate laws in place to protect animals. These people have no business being responsible for the lives of any living beings. PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT THEIR ABUSE BY BUYING DOGS FROM THEM.
Seriously!!!!!!! what kind of breeder are you? It is freezing out, people have video’s etc. leaving your dogs out in this cold, their shelter are metal cans……..you are inhumane and cruel…and you should be arrested…..
From what I understand the puppies and mom & dads are safe now? I am in CT and was hoping to drive over to take video or anything needed to help these sweet babies. I have been leaving msgs on all phone numbers and email addresses provided.
Also called the local news station in CT that covers the NY/CT border with the hopes they will do a story to help these sweeties. The weather dude is a GIGANGIC animal activist and will be majorly outraged at this situation. Thank you everyone for not letting up and fighting the good fight. ((Hugs)) to the sweet babies.
Jo Ann, mojo nothing has been done. These dogs are still outside and the temps are going to be way below zero tonight. I hope they can get these dogs out and in appropriate shelters. These aren’t sled dogs, they’re border collies which are farm dogs but still shouldn’t be in temps this cold. If you get caught leaving a pet on a car on a freezing cold or extremely hot day it is neglect. How is this not the same?!
There is dogs limping around and freezing . There is a chance they can lose their limbs and more. Any vet would not approve of this What kind of a person are you and i cant believe cops said there is no proof of Neglect. Did they not see videos of the dogs. Heartless people you are watching them outside like that
For anyone who thinks the dogs are safe, no, they are not. Now Queen Kathy has refused to sell any dogs at all, probably because she’s pissed off about all the bad publicity. Boo fukn hoo!
This breeder has been reported numerous times for abuse and neglect. Continue to report her and hopefully the law will finally do something about it. DO NOT BUY FROM THIS BREEDER.
Do not buy from these breeder! They do not care about their animals! Leaving them outside in frigid temperatures!!
I cannot believe how the state friggin police can say all is well..NO IT ISN”T!!!! I want to personally go to this hell hole and talk to Kathy and ask her what planet she lives on thinking these creatures of Jehovah are well cared for. She needs to stay outside for a week or two now and feel the stinging pain in her body from the frigid temps. I love the story of the dogs who were abused by their owner and they killed her and ate her……….there ya go,,,,,,,,,,eye for an eye.. Karma will catch up to her and it is a bitch!!!
It only takes common sense and a heart to realize that you don’t keep domesticated animals outside or in unheated shelters in winter cold of any kind, much less subzero temps. It’s cruel and potentially fatal to the animals. Forget whether it’s legal or not, it’s unacceptable and immoral– and you have to wonder what the hell is going on in the mind of this breeder and anyone who supports her. “Home-raised” dogs? Are you kidding me?
What a piece of shit. Wish I could met this women one day! Any updates? Anybody willing to help foster if someone gets these dogs out without the authorities. We can not wait any longer. I’ll volunteer to go! What’s a night in jail? At least it’s warm!
These dogs are kept outside in below freezing weather. This is a horrible business that needs to be shut down! Do not support or purchase dogs from them. Dogs should not live in cold barrels and be walking in snow all day long. The owners should be ashamed of themselves!
Kathy’s email is very telling….
minnycruella@msn.com
hope these dogs get some help fast and that if the law cant do its job, karma, please do your job!!!!
this whole thing is so upsetting,maybe the owners should go sleep outside,i hope they get shut down,people please dont buy from this breeder,just looking at the pictures it is not a good place,these animals are abused,im watching the news they are telling people to bring their animals in,so how is this ok i dont get it,,how can these people sleep,knowing those babys r out there cold.they need sheds full of hay with or heated bldgs,omg please help them
This is sickening. No animal should have to live under these conditions. And aren’t there laws that govern how MANY pets that can be on one private property? I have seen numerous times where cats and dogs have been removed from owners simply because they had too many and couldn’t care for them. Looking at these dogs, there is no way they are annually vet checked and vaccinated, much less cared for if ill. I spend hundreds of dollars a year on my 3 animals just to keep them healthy. Not to mention the cost of good quality food. By the looks of this place , I wonder how much and what they are being fed. The grounds look like a fenced in shack with crates in the yard! NOTHING like a true breeders grounds would look like. WAKE UP AUTHORITIES, this is not rocket science here! Something CAN BE DONE! I have contacted many and will continue, even if I have to travel the 2 hrs. to get there. What a disgrace.
Border collies are a working breed just like husky. Could this be set up better? I’m sure it could…could this entire situation be handled better yes it could be… The internet bullys are for sure alive and well!! I can assure everyone with all the harassment and threats coming in that is I were Kathy I would have a loaded rifle at every window.
It is Jan 3, 2013. Temperature at your location is -8 with a -20 Wind chill. Are the barrels heated? Why are your dogs limping…frost bite maybe? This is cruel!!!
YOU ARE A CRAZY WOMAN. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU WILL HAVE HEALTHY DOGS KEEPING THEM OUTSIDE IN THE -13 WEATHER. THAT LEADS TO KIDNEY FAILURE AND LIMB DAMAGE TO THE DOGS. ANY VET WITH A RIGHT STATE OF MIND WOULD SAY THIS IS WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS. GIVE UP YOUR DOGS TO SOMEONE WHO WOULD ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THEM AND GET A REAL JOB LOSERS.
Your right BCs are working dogs but they are NOT like huskies. Anyone that knows anything about dogs knows there is a huge difference. They are intelligent workaholics who were bred to herd. They were designed to work long hours herding sheep. They do not have the same coat or body build as a husky that were born to live in cold temps. If even a 1/3 of what is being said about this breed is true than they are not good breeders.
Having this many dogs of this breed (who we know do not as a rule make the best pet in a home that is looking for a couch potato)
No dogs are being sold. Thousands of people tuning in to this waiting to see what will happen. Put up a price and let them buy the dogs. You will have money, the dogs are gone and the people will be gone. This nightmare will be over.
KATHY = puppy miller, greedy, despicable, selfish and ignorant. That’s it. DESPICABLE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS…..how many puppies froze to death last night alone?
no sheep farmer EVER would buy his dog(s) from that place, or a place like this. Nor would anyone else needing a working dog. People who need a working dog VALUE their dogs.
And as HAVENBOUNCE said, Border Collies are not meant to live outdoors in such conditions. They are not made for winter, but for herding in the spring and summer.
Those are bred to be sold as pets. And I doubt that dog lovers would go there, see the conditions and buy a puppy from them. My guess, they sell on the street, markets, to shops, via the classifieds or online. I can’t imagine anyone looking for a pet buying there when aware of the conditions.
This place is running for 30 years – and they didn’t care enough about the dogs to improve their conditions in those 30 years. They won’t start now. Being not illegal does not mean being right. This clearly is not.
Look at these pics and tell me these dogs are OK. Sore red paws, frostbite on noses, ice on faces! Some look like they haven’t been groomed in a year.
Pappas, you seem to be Cruella’s BFF, so why don’t you get her to come out of her hidey hole and make a statement? Oh wait, she won’t come out because she’s too busy making money. My bad.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.578364952245804.1073741869.117852684963702&type=1
Has anyone come forth in defense of this kennel?
This disgusting hellhole is just another puppy mill needing to be SHUT DOWN! Hopefully the governor signed the puppy mill bill today & this dump will be history! Kathy, I would seriously like to see you removed from that dump you live in & taken outside to live in one the barrels your dogs call home, that would be a more than a fitting place for you. I would then hope while you were in there you would VERY slowly freeze to death…That is what you truly deserve & nothing less. Like most puppy millers those dogs mean NOTHING to you other than the money you can make off them. You are a heartless, worthless piece of garbage that makes money off the suffering of your animals…In the end you WILL pay for your actions.
What a piece of shit woman. There is no doubt at all that she will burn in hell for the suffering she has caused innocent dogs for the sake of money. Get a job and earn an honest living like the rest of us, you worthless waste of space.
Oh yea – no abuse going on here! That’s why when you blow the photos this professional photographer took you see red paws, you see legs with ice stuck in their fur, you see a dog with a frostbit nose and an eye infection, you see ungroomed shih tzus, you see a dog with ice hanging from it’s mouth, you see a foot of snow on top of the barrels – how does that provide warmth? The aholes can’t even go outside to clean off the snow! And not all the barrels have straw.
https://www.facebook.com/CaraMariePhotography
And yes Eric did approach the owners about buying some of the dogs – he wanted to get some of the ones in bad shape out of there ASAP. And his rescue is a 501c3 – trust me the govt. spends more time regulating 501c3 charities than they do puppy mills!
Two dogs died on your property during this last severe cold snap. The vet who inspected your puppy mill was obviously paid off because your dogs have frostbite on their snouts with missing fur and open raw flesh. Another dog has swollen feet. You are a disgrace to loving compassionate breeders of these beautiful dogs! Buyer Beware…. There is much more to the allegations of this breeder. Cruella, Get A Job! Stop making a living off the suffering of these beautiful animals… There is a special place in hell for those who do not care for God’s creatures!
I do not know this Eric who posted pictures and videos of your dogs and how they are being kept. I viewed the video and the pictures and NO animal belong out doors in these temperatures. I cold i. The winter and sweltering hot in the summer. I do not know how you sleep at night. Get a real job and stop living off the backs of your animals! Please ask to see the living conditions of these dogs being bred before buying!
I don’t see any evidence of a breeder who should be allowed to be in business here. A breeder treats his/her dogs like family and doesn’t just barely meet the requirements of a woefully inadequate set of ag laws. Dogs are family pets, companion animals, domesticated to be kept in the same shelter as their human “pack”. You do not belong in this business. SHAME ON YOU.
People like you disgust me…leaving these poor poor dogs outside in these freezing temperatures with nothing a PLASTIC BARREL to sleep in. Shame on you…DO NOT call yourself an animal lover. No person in their right mind should leave these dogs out in this weather. They are so helpless. You are an absolute heartless person.
In the photos I saw your dogs looks disgraceful. The shitzu’s are filthy and matted. Everyone knows shitzu’s are a companion dog that need to be indoors only.
The border collies look like some of them need medical attention. Do the right thing for the dogs, give them up before things get worse. Your dogs need help!
Do the right thing and let someones rescue group take these poor babies away from this hell hole you are keeping them in-enough said-JUST DO IT NOW before anymore suffering continues!.Read all the comments here and listen!
I just cant believe u don’t want help from volunteers or people that care. Right now and yesterday all we wanted and was worried that ur dogs got the proper care to be warm, By the vidoes and a lot of the pictures you can see a lot of them are freezing cold and need some attention… but u didn’t want help from anyone I guess, so god help them poor helpless animals and hope they all make it but in reality u know now that the whole world is watching and its not gonna end till you are shut down and never, ever have another animal again in your care… And all the pictures on your site are not the conditions that I see on facebook and the media, its not a living condition for for those dogs…you know in ur heart if u have one that you and your husband (brother) can not take care of all these animals so please consider of letting some of them go to a good home before its to late…
I think this is horrific. These babies deserve so much better. Please stop purchasing dogs from this puppy mill! They need to be shut down. Lets get these dogs and puppies safe and warm.
These furbabies are freezing.Why dont you stay outside in single digit temperture 24/7,sleep in a barrel,no warmth, no where to find comfort. All you’re worried about is money.
These are innocent voiceless furbabies.They deserve better than this.You have been exposed by many. We will continue to expose you and your inhumane, heartless ways.We will not shut up nor back off. WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!